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== What worked, what didn’t == | == What worked, what didn’t == | ||
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+ | === 3 Stage Structure === | ||
+ | * The general 3 stage structure seems to be working. Any vote to change from this approach? Any revision to the overall structure? | ||
=== Stage 1 === | === Stage 1 === | ||
− | + | ==== Timing: ==== | |
− | * Timing of having POSSE Stage 2 right at end of semester seemed to be tough for some people. | + | * Timing of having POSSE Stage 2 right at end of semester seemed to be tough for some people. |
− | * Provide access to materials 8 weeks in advance so that people who want to get a jump on activities can do so. | + | ** Is the issue the timing of Stage 2 or Stage 1? One suggestion was for Stage 2 to be one week later; others seemed to find Stage 1 timing a problem. |
+ | ** What alternative would be better? | ||
+ | * Provide access to materials 8 weeks in advance so that people who want to get a jump on activities can do so. | ||
+ | ** Where would the part A-C deadlines fall? | ||
* Add more accountability to stage 1. | * Add more accountability to stage 1. | ||
** Have more frequent/small deadlines | ** Have more frequent/small deadlines | ||
+ | *** We also got an opposing comment - that deadlines were good, but having flexibility within them was also good | ||
** Have participants (and foss2serve community) review and comment | ** Have participants (and foss2serve community) review and comment | ||
− | ''' | + | '''Decided:''' |
+ | * June appears to work best. | ||
+ | * Move to second or third week in June | ||
+ | * Check graduation schedules!!! (GH, DB) | ||
+ | * Make activities available 8 weeks ahead of time | ||
+ | * Add some sort of participant review to activities. | ||
+ | * Keep three deadlines at four, six, and eight weeks | ||
+ | * Add one more IRC chat in stage 1.B - generating sense of interaction | ||
+ | ==== Activities: ==== | ||
* Need to refine some of the activities so that they are more focused and therefore should take less time. | * Need to refine some of the activities so that they are more focused and therefore should take less time. | ||
** In particular the Project Evaluation, FOSS Field Trip and FOSS in Courses Planning activities | ** In particular the Project Evaluation, FOSS Field Trip and FOSS in Courses Planning activities | ||
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**# Get up to speed in working on HFOSS projects | **# Get up to speed in working on HFOSS projects | ||
**# Get up to speed evaluating an HFOSS project for use | **# Get up to speed evaluating an HFOSS project for use | ||
+ | **# Preliminary thinking about where HFOSS might fit in their own curriculum (in general) | ||
+ | **# Preliminary identification of a target course or venue for a first HFOSS activity at their institution (a specific starting point) | ||
* Shift some content from Stage 2 to Stage 1: | * Shift some content from Stage 2 to Stage 1: | ||
**Examples of HFOSS in Education, HFOSS in the Curriculum, Understanding Open Source Communities, Pedagogy and Course Management. | **Examples of HFOSS in Education, HFOSS in the Curriculum, Understanding Open Source Communities, Pedagogy and Course Management. | ||
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*** Getting up to speed on the tools | *** Getting up to speed on the tools | ||
*** Getting up to speed on the projects | *** Getting up to speed on the projects | ||
+ | *** (GH notes that the above have been one thread. The other thread is pedagogy/course planning) | ||
+ | |||
+ | '''Decided:''' | ||
+ | * Project Evaluation Activity revision (LP,DB): | ||
+ | ** Revise so that they're lead through a project. | ||
+ | ** Change title to "Project Overview" | ||
+ | ** Make locations more specific. Have them go to a specific location and report back. | ||
+ | ** Or have them go look for something but give them a time limit and report back. | ||
+ | * FOSS Field Trip revision (LP): | ||
+ | ** Need to update Ohloh and SourceForge | ||
+ | * Course Planning Activity (HE): | ||
+ | ** Clarify the end product - only light sketch. | ||
+ | * Need to go back and look at how we're framing each stage (GH) | ||
+ | ** Need to set framework for each stage | ||
+ | ** See notes above | ||
+ | ** GIve more understanding of where participants are and where they are going - context | ||
+ | * Shifting content from Stage 2 to Stage 1 | ||
+ | * Start Sunday at 3:00? DO a bit more on the first day for more small-group activities on day 2 and 3. | ||
− | + | ==== Other: ==== | |
* It would be helpful to have some sort of visual introductions during Stage 1. | * It would be helpful to have some sort of visual introductions during Stage 1. | ||
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** Video skype? | ** Video skype? | ||
** Google hangouts? | ** Google hangouts? | ||
+ | * It might be nice to have a formal gathering/opening at the start of Stage 1. Not clear what the right technology would be for this though. | ||
=== Stage 2 === | === Stage 2 === | ||
* Reorganize to spend more time in small groups. | * Reorganize to spend more time in small groups. | ||
* Add another day purely for small groups? | * Add another day purely for small groups? | ||
+ | ** We probably don't have the budget for this. Arriving earlier on the opening day might buy some time though | ||
* Perhaps move two weeks later in June so people have more time before to prepare. | * Perhaps move two weeks later in June so people have more time before to prepare. | ||
** How would we combat fatigue? Would this be productive? | ** How would we combat fatigue? Would this be productive? | ||
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** Or Skype in. | ** Or Skype in. | ||
* Try to move some of the lecture material to Stage 1 to allow more time for small group meetings. | * Try to move some of the lecture material to Stage 1 to allow more time for small group meetings. | ||
+ | ** This is tempting, but will people do more in Stage 1? People already had trouble getting stage 1 done. | ||
=== Other Thoughts === | === Other Thoughts === | ||
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** TeachingOpenSource IRC? | ** TeachingOpenSource IRC? | ||
** How do we integrate participants back into teachingopensource? | ** How do we integrate participants back into teachingopensource? | ||
+ | * How do we encourage the small groups? | ||
+ | ** By being active participants | ||
+ | ** By regular (occasional?) full POSSE meetings on IRC | ||
+ | ** By making each group's activities visible to everyone | ||
+ | *** Wiki page for each group | ||
+ | *** Hold at least some meetings on IRC | ||
− | [[Category: POSSE ]] | + | [[Category:POSSE]] |
+ | [[Category:POSSE 2013-06]] |
Latest revision as of 09:59, 7 February 2017
Contents |
What worked, what didn’t
3 Stage Structure
- The general 3 stage structure seems to be working. Any vote to change from this approach? Any revision to the overall structure?
Stage 1
Timing:
- Timing of having POSSE Stage 2 right at end of semester seemed to be tough for some people.
- Is the issue the timing of Stage 2 or Stage 1? One suggestion was for Stage 2 to be one week later; others seemed to find Stage 1 timing a problem.
- What alternative would be better?
- Provide access to materials 8 weeks in advance so that people who want to get a jump on activities can do so.
- Where would the part A-C deadlines fall?
- Add more accountability to stage 1.
- Have more frequent/small deadlines
- We also got an opposing comment - that deadlines were good, but having flexibility within them was also good
- Have participants (and foss2serve community) review and comment
- Have more frequent/small deadlines
Decided:
- June appears to work best.
- Move to second or third week in June
- Check graduation schedules!!! (GH, DB)
- Make activities available 8 weeks ahead of time
- Add some sort of participant review to activities.
- Keep three deadlines at four, six, and eight weeks
- Add one more IRC chat in stage 1.B - generating sense of interaction
Activities:
- Need to refine some of the activities so that they are more focused and therefore should take less time.
- In particular the Project Evaluation, FOSS Field Trip and FOSS in Courses Planning activities
- FOSS Field Trip needs more information about how to find information on SourceForge
- Also clarify the depth required and indicate that participants shouldn't spend more than 2 hours on any one activity unless they want to.
- Do we even need the Project Evaluation activity as the projects have already been "vetted"?
- Better to revamp the Project Evaluation activity to walk through a single example and only have participants comment on pieces rather than try to carry out the evaluation themselves.
- Seems that participants need the experience in Stage 2 to be able to find and understand all of the information.
- Or, since the projects are already selected, how about a more direct comparison, rather than evaluation?
- Evaluate one of the chosen projects, not something unrelated.
- In particular the Project Evaluation, FOSS Field Trip and FOSS in Courses Planning activities
- Clarify the mission/purpose of the Stage 1 activities with respect to Stage 2.
- Make it clear what participants should be getting out of stage 1
- Get up to speed in working on HFOSS projects
- Get up to speed evaluating an HFOSS project for use
- Preliminary thinking about where HFOSS might fit in their own curriculum (in general)
- Preliminary identification of a target course or venue for a first HFOSS activity at their institution (a specific starting point)
- Make it clear what participants should be getting out of stage 1
- Shift some content from Stage 2 to Stage 1:
- Examples of HFOSS in Education, HFOSS in the Curriculum, Understanding Open Source Communities, Pedagogy and Course Management.
- Idea: Create short video of these topics and ask participants to create list of questions on wiki (group list) that form the basis of interactive activity in Stage 2.
- Have real "check ins" with other people within the group
- Divide into two threads:
- Getting up to speed on the tools
- Getting up to speed on the projects
- (GH notes that the above have been one thread. The other thread is pedagogy/course planning)
Decided:
- Project Evaluation Activity revision (LP,DB):
- Revise so that they're lead through a project.
- Change title to "Project Overview"
- Make locations more specific. Have them go to a specific location and report back.
- Or have them go look for something but give them a time limit and report back.
- FOSS Field Trip revision (LP):
- Need to update Ohloh and SourceForge
- Course Planning Activity (HE):
- Clarify the end product - only light sketch.
- Need to go back and look at how we're framing each stage (GH)
- Need to set framework for each stage
- See notes above
- GIve more understanding of where participants are and where they are going - context
- Shifting content from Stage 2 to Stage 1
- Start Sunday at 3:00? DO a bit more on the first day for more small-group activities on day 2 and 3.
Other:
- It would be helpful to have some sort of visual introductions during Stage 1.
- Ask folks to post their pictures on foss2serve wiki?
- Video skype?
- Google hangouts?
- It might be nice to have a formal gathering/opening at the start of Stage 1. Not clear what the right technology would be for this though.
Stage 2
- Reorganize to spend more time in small groups.
- Add another day purely for small groups?
- We probably don't have the budget for this. Arriving earlier on the opening day might buy some time though
- Perhaps move two weeks later in June so people have more time before to prepare.
- How would we combat fatigue? Would this be productive?
- Combine the face-to-face with a hackathon or other FOSS activity.
- Host a hackathon the day before or the day after? With students from the local institution?
- Host a Random Hacks of Kindness?
- Some other student event?
- Have more representatives from the HFOSS projects present.
- Or Skype in.
- Try to move some of the lecture material to Stage 1 to allow more time for small group meetings.
- This is tempting, but will people do more in Stage 1? People already had trouble getting stage 1 done.
Other Thoughts
- Could we incentivize people to share a room to stretch the funds?
- Host a hack-a-thon perhaps over the summer? NCC has a budget for shorter workshops and follow-up events to foster and expand the relationship that began at a POSSE.
- We need a way to connect everyone involved, not just our small groups.
- Google hangout?
- TeachingOpenSource IRC?
- How do we integrate participants back into teachingopensource?
- How do we encourage the small groups?
- By being active participants
- By regular (occasional?) full POSSE meetings on IRC
- By making each group's activities visible to everyone
- Wiki page for each group
- Hold at least some meetings on IRC